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Tom, you wrote: "Henry V contains sustained French dialogue ... extended dramatic scenes requiring genuine fluency. Applied to the candidates, this favours Florio (born into an Italian-French exile household, French was a working language), North (translated Plutarch via Amyot’s French original), and Mary Sidney (translated Garnier from French)—and places de Vere at best in the partial column."

A letter that Edward de Vere wrote to William Cecil at age 13 in perfect idiomatic French is extant. This is consistent with the fact that his tutor from age 4 to age 12, Sir Thomas Smith, knew French and served two years as Elizabeth's ambassador to France. At age 20, de Vere purchased a copy of Amyot's "Plutarch's Lives" in French (at the same time he purchased his Geneva Bible and books in Italian) for which receipts exist. He traveled in France and spent time at the French court during his continental tour. Aren't some of the Audley End annotations in de Vere's hand in French? Why do you say the evidence places de Vere "at best in the partial column"? What sort of evidence are you looking for to show that someone knew French?

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What Looney did not take into account was that Francis Bacon, the second contender, and the true Shakespeare, was the concealed son of Elizabeth Ist. He concealed his authorship out of fear of his works being seen as seditious. Bacon's first play Ur Hamlet, written when he was 21, outlined almost exactly his own circumstance of being denied the throne by his mother's lover. Hamlet itself not being released until after his mother's death. Read the novel The Royal Secret by John Bentley based on Bacon's intimate private life to get the whole picture of the attempts to conceal Bacon's authorship, not just by himself and his co-writing team, but later by Spedding and others, not to mention the theatre impresario David Garrick whose pocket was well served by promoting the faux Will Shakespeare, the illiterate butcher's boy from Stratford. Elizabeth 1st's nickname for Bacon was 'piglet'. What more do you need to know.

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